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Old 04-13-2008, 01:11 AM
Bergamot
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RafaMinu wrote:
> [spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
>
> ...
> Recruiting Manager
> Human Factors International


This bit of spam I don't get.
1. A bona fide HFI representative wouldn't be using a hotmail address
2. HFI should have no need to spam Usenet with this stuff and I can't
fathom them doing it

It's inconceivable to me that this spammer is even remotely associated
with HFI. What benefit could he possibly get out of this?

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Old 04-13-2008, 01:11 AM
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:00:30 -0600, Bergamot put finger to keyboard
and typed:

>RafaMinu wrote:
>> [spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
>>
>> ...
>> Recruiting Manager
>> Human Factors International

>
>This bit of spam I don't get.
>1. A bona fide HFI representative wouldn't be using a hotmail address
>2. HFI should have no need to spam Usenet with this stuff and I can't
>fathom them doing it
>
>It's inconceivable to me that this spammer is even remotely associated
>with HFI. What benefit could he possibly get out of this?


It could be a joe-job. Or it could be an enthusiastic but ignorant
junior member of HFI staff.

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Old 04-13-2008, 01:11 AM
Jerry Stuckle
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RafaMinu wrote:
>> It could be a joe-job. Or it could be an enthusiastic but ignorant
>> junior member of HFI staff.

>
> None of the above.
>
> I sincerely fail to see what's wrong with the post.
>
> Please, explain what it is that bothers you so much.
>
>


Because it's SPAM, that's why. And why would you post it unless you're
either a junior member of the HFI staff, or doing a joe-job?

I hope they can you.

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Old 04-13-2008, 01:11 AM
Jerry Stuckle
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RafaMinu wrote:
> On Dec 31, 8:00 pm, Bergamot <berga...@visi.com> wrote:
>> RafaMinu wrote:
>>> [spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
>>> ...
>>> Recruiting Manager
>>> Human Factors International

>> This bit of spam I don't get.
>> 1. A bona fide HFI representative wouldn't be using a hotmail address
>> 2. HFI should have no need to spam Usenet with this stuff and I can't
>> fathom them doing it
>>
>> It's inconceivable to me that this spammer is even remotely associated
>> with HFI. What benefit could he possibly get out of this?

>
> And who says I'm a HFI representative?
> I find the information interesting and I post it here because it might
> be of interest to other people.
> What's the problem?
>


Yea... right.

Someone who never posted in these newsgroups before all of a sudden
starts posting SPAM?

You must be a joe-jobber.

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Old 04-13-2008, 01:11 AM
Harlan Messinger
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RafaMinu wrote:
> On Dec 31, 8:16 pm, Mark Goodge <use...@listmail.good-stuff.co.uk>
> wrote:
>> On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 13:00:30 -0600, Bergamot put finger to keyboard
>> and typed:
>>
>>> RafaMinu wrote:
>>>> [spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
>>>> ...
>>>> Recruiting Manager
>>>> Human Factors International
>>> This bit of spam I don't get.
>>> 1. A bona fide HFI representative wouldn't be using a hotmail address
>>> 2. HFI should have no need to spam Usenet with this stuff and I can't
>>> fathom them doing it
>>> It's inconceivable to me that this spammer is even remotely associated
>>> with HFI. What benefit could he possibly get out of this?

>> It could be a joe-job. Or it could be an enthusiastic but ignorant
>> junior member of HFI staff.

>
> None of the above.
>
> I sincerely fail to see what's wrong with the post.
>
> Please, explain what it is that bothers you so much.


The explanation above looked pretty clear to me. Are you asking him to
repeat it?
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:11 AM
Rik Wasmus
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On Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:57:48 +0100, Jerry Stuckle
<jstucklex@attglobal.net> wrote:
> RafaMinu wrote:
>> On Dec 31, 8:00 pm, Bergamot <berga...@visi.com> wrote:
>>> RafaMinu wrote:
>>>> [spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
>>>> ...
>>>> Recruiting Manager
>>>> Human Factors International
>>> This bit of spam I don't get.
>>> 1. A bona fide HFI representative wouldn't be using a hotmail address
>>> 2. HFI should have no need to spam Usenet with this stuff and I can't
>>> fathom them doing it
>>>
>>> It's inconceivable to me that this spammer is even remotely associated
>>> with HFI. What benefit could he possibly get out of this?

>> And who says I'm a HFI representative?
>> I find the information interesting and I post it here because it might
>> be of interest to other people.
>> What's the problem?
>>

>
> Yea... right.
>
> Someone who never posted in these newsgroups before all of a sudden
> starts posting SPAM?


I have a feeling he has posted before. It's not for nothing he got caught
in my spam filters...

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Old 04-13-2008, 01:11 AM
Harlan Messinger
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RafaMinu wrote:
> On Dec 31, 8:00 pm, Bergamot <berga...@visi.com> wrote:
>> RafaMinu wrote:
>>> [spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
>>> ...
>>> Recruiting Manager
>>> Human Factors International

>> This bit of spam I don't get.
>> 1. A bona fide HFI representative wouldn't be using a hotmail address
>> 2. HFI should have no need to spam Usenet with this stuff and I can't
>> fathom them doing it
>>
>> It's inconceivable to me that this spammer is even remotely associated
>> with HFI. What benefit could he possibly get out of this?

>
> And who says I'm a HFI representative?
> I find the information interesting and I post it here because it might
> be of interest to other people.
> What's the problem?


It's unusual for people to read an ad for some arbitrary service with
which they have no affiliation and to be seized by the urge to place a
note about it in multiple Usenet newsgroups in which they don't
participate purely for the benefit of people they don't know. It isn't
unreasonable in these cases to suspect that the note is a more-or-less
disguised ad posted by a person who stands to benefit, directly or
indirectly, from the posting.

One time I saw a real idiot pull a stunt where he made himself out to be
an ordinary consumer just like us who had discovered this fantastic
product that he felt he had to share with us. He got really quiet after
someone pointed out to him that the message's headers revealed that it
had come from the very company that he was pretending only to have
happened upon.
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:11 AM
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RafaMinu wrote:
> On Dec 31, 8:00 pm, Bergamot <berga...@visi.com> wrote:
>> RafaMinu wrote:
>> > [spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:

>>
>> It's inconceivable to me that this spammer is even remotely associated
>> with HFI. What benefit could he possibly get out of this?

>
> And who says I'm a HFI representative?


No one. You never identified yourself in any way, which made it
suspicious from the get-go. If you were a regular in these newsgroups,
it would still be spam but the ensuing discussion probably would have
taken a different turn.

> What's the problem?


Clue deficiency?

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Old 04-13-2008, 01:11 AM
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RafaMinu <rafaminu@hotmail.com> wrote in message:
f14fe715-0a80-4630-8240-fe745415881f...oglegroups.com,

> On Dec 31, 8:00 pm, Bergamot <berga...@visi.com> wrote:
>> RafaMinu wrote:
>>> [spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:

>>
>>> ...
>>> Recruiting Manager
>>> Human Factors International

>>
>> This bit of spam I don't get.
>> 1. A bona fide HFI representative wouldn't be using a hotmail address
>> 2. HFI should have no need to spam Usenet with this stuff and I can't
>> fathom them doing it
>>
>> It's inconceivable to me that this spammer is even remotely
>> associated with HFI. What benefit could he possibly get out of this?

>
> And who says I'm a HFI representative?
> I find the information interesting and I post it here because it might
> be of interest to other people.
> What's the problem?


Besides the fact that your message is essentially unsolicted advertising
and as such is unwelcome here, it appears as if you signed someone
else's name to it.

"Jim Garrett
Recruiting Manager
Human Factors International"

Jim Garrett is located in Iowa
Your IP indicates that you are located in Spain.

And as was pointed out by someone else:
"It's unusual for people to read an ad for some arbitrary service with
which they have no affiliation and to be seized by the urge to place a
note about it in multiple Usenet newsgroups in which they don't
participate purely for the benefit of people they don't know."

It's not just unusual, but rather unheard of. This sort of thing (to
this extent) is never done by a disinterested third party. There's
always a hidden agenda.

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Old 04-13-2008, 01:11 AM
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"Harlan Messinger" wrote in message
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> RafaMinu wrote:
>> On Dec 31, 8:00 pm, Bergamot <berga...@visi.com> wrote:
>>> RafaMinu wrote:
>>>> [spam about] Consulting and teaching positions:
>>>> ...
>>>> Recruiting Manager
>>>> Human Factors International
>>> This bit of spam I don't get.
>>> 1. A bona fide HFI representative wouldn't be using a hotmail address
>>> 2. HFI should have no need to spam Usenet with this stuff and I can't
>>> fathom them doing it
>>>
>>> It's inconceivable to me that this spammer is even remotely associated
>>> with HFI. What benefit could he possibly get out of this?

>>
>> And who says I'm a HFI representative?
>> I find the information interesting and I post it here because it might
>> be of interest to other people.
>> What's the problem?

>
> It's unusual for people to read an ad for some arbitrary service with
> which they have no affiliation and to be seized by the urge to place a
> note about it in multiple Usenet newsgroups in which they don't
> participate purely for the benefit of people they don't know. It isn't
> unreasonable in these cases to suspect that the note is a more-or-less
> disguised ad posted by a person who stands to benefit, directly or
> indirectly, from the posting.


And then when I pulled a sarcy reply, I get a wonderful and highly
informative one back.

Hmm...


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