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Old 08-23-2008, 08:33 AM
Alex
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Default How to avoid guestbook spam without php or other server sidesoftware,



Hello all,

The question has been asked everywhere on the internet but I can't
manage to find a solution that fits my needs.

Situation:
My guestbook gets automated spam with unwanted adult content by the
dozens. The moment I deleted those messages, an hour later there are a
dozen of new messages.

I am using my ISP free web account space and unfortunately they do not
support server side software such as php. I contacted my ISP and they
mention capsha but that's of no use since they do not support php.
Then they say there must be an alternative in html. So something is
out there somewhere, have a nice day. Great help!

Is there any other way to block this spam?

My preferences:
1. I'm looking for free alternatives only
2. A possibility to check each guestbook entry before it is posted in
my guestbook is time consuming and I don't feel like checking this
each day at all.
3. An image/text verification box that users have to read is my
favorite but I don't know how to do this, especially not knowing that
php is not supported.
4. I hope it's not going to be too complicated (it's only my first
website and I'm not a programmer)

Thanks in advance for your help.

Regards,
Alex
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Old 08-23-2008, 08:33 AM
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<uk.net.web.authoring>
<Alex>
<Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:32:03 -0700 (PDT)>
<cb922b7b-bb9d-4950-9746-fd1341f0f4c1@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>

> My preferences:
> 1. I'm looking for free alternatives only
> 2. A possibility to check each guestbook entry before it is posted in
> my guestbook is time consuming and I don't feel like checking this
> each day at all.
> 3. An image/text verification box that users have to read is my
> favorite but I don't know how to do this, especially not knowing that
> php is not supported.
> 4. I hope it's not going to be too complicated (it's only my first
> website and I'm not a programmer)
>


PHPGB does all the above - and more - as it sends you a email when a new
guestbook entry is made .

I suppose i could arrange a free account for you - but that would depend
on what the content of your website is .

Register on the phpgb forum and post the url of your website - if krusty
deems it suitable - he will setup a guestbook for you and pm you the
admin username and password for it .


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(the best php guestbook on planet earth)
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Old 08-23-2008, 08:33 AM
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On Aug 22, 6:43-pm, Krustov <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> <uk.net.web.authoring>
> <Alex>
> <Fri, 22 Aug 2008 09:32:03 -0700 (PDT)>
> <cb922b7b-bb9d-4950-9746-fd1341f0f...@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
>
> > My preferences:
> > 1. I'm looking for free alternatives only
> > 2. A possibility to check each guestbook entry before it is posted in
> > my guestbook is time consuming and I don't feel like checking this
> > each day at all.
> > 3. An image/text verification box that users have to read is my
> > favorite but I don't know how to do this, especially not knowing that
> > php is not supported.
> > 4. I hope it's not going to be too complicated (it's only my first
> > website and I'm not a programmer)

>
> PHPGB does all the above - and more - as it sends you a email when a new
> guestbook entry is made .
>
> I suppose i could arrange a free account for you - but that would depend
> on what the content of your website is .
>
> Register on the phpgb forum and post the url of your website - if krusty
> deems it suitable - he will setup a guestbook for you and pm you the
> admin username and password for it .
>
> --www.phpguestbook.co.uk/phpgb
> (the best php guestbook on planet earth)


Thanks for your fast reply.

My website doesn't contain any harmful content, it's just a personal
website that I designed for fun and to share some info with others
about flight simulators and to show some pictures of my flights.
http://users.telenet.be/aviator

But I need to emphasise that my ISP does not allow php or any other
server side programs. Isn't phpgb server side software?

Alex
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Old 08-23-2008, 08:33 AM
Ben Bacarisse
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Alex <ad1979@telenet.be> writes:
<snip>
> Situation:
> My guestbook gets automated spam with unwanted adult content by the
> dozens. The moment I deleted those messages, an hour later there are a
> dozen of new messages.
>
> I am using my ISP free web account space and unfortunately they do not
> support server side software such as php. I contacted my ISP and they
> mention capsha but that's of no use since they do not support php.
> Then they say there must be an alternative in html. So something is
> out there somewhere, have a nice day. Great help!


There is a paradox here. What is running the questbook if your host
does not support "server side software". There must be something doing
the work. Are you forbidden from adding to or altering whatever that is?

> Is there any other way to block this spam?


All methods I know use something server side. You could do something
as a client-side script but that will exclude users who browse with
scripting off.

> My preferences:
> 1. I'm looking for free alternatives only
> 2. A possibility to check each guestbook entry before it is posted in
> my guestbook is time consuming and I don't feel like checking this
> each day at all.
> 3. An image/text verification box that users have to read is my
> favorite but I don't know how to do this, especially not knowing that
> php is not supported.
> 4. I hope it's not going to be too complicated (it's only my first
> website and I'm not a programmer)


Stage 1 is to find out if you can do anything at all. If you can't
run, install or modify any server-side software, then I think you are
out of luck.

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Old 08-23-2008, 08:33 AM
Ben Bacarisse
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Alex <ad1979@telenet.be> writes:

> On Aug 22, 6:43Â-pm, Krustov <m...@privacy.net> wrote:

<stuff>
>> --www.phpguestbook.co.uk/phpgb
>> (the best php guestbook on planet earth)

>
> Thanks for your fast reply.


Let me as neutral as possible. Use an archive like google groups to
read other contributions from this helpful poster.

> My website doesn't contain any harmful content, it's just a personal
> website that I designed for fun and to share some info with others
> about flight simulators and to show some pictures of my flights.
> http://users.telenet.be/aviator
>
> But I need to emphasise that my ISP does not allow php or any other
> server side programs. Isn't phpgb server side software?


I think he is offering to host the guestbook so it would run of his
servers.

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Old 08-24-2008, 04:47 PM
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<uk.net.web.authoring>
<Alex>
<Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:15:27 -0700 (PDT)>
<eb424c31-5201-4e05-99c2-346782da8970@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>

> My website doesn't contain any harmful content, it's just a personal
> website that I designed for fun and to share some info with others
> about flight simulators and to show some pictures of my flights.
> http://users.telenet.be/aviator
>


Hi , I'm afraid your website has been deemed unsuitable for a free
guestbook .

It has google ads on it and is therefore classed by myself as being a
commercial website because you make money from it .


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Old 08-24-2008, 04:47 PM
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In article <cb922b7b-bb9d-4950-9746-fd1341f0f4c1@m45g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>,
ad1979@telenet.be (Alex) wrote:

> Situation:
> My guestbook gets automated spam with unwanted adult content by the
> dozens. The moment I deleted those messages, an hour later there are a
> dozen of new messages.


You have to block this at the server - the spammers may not even be looking at your
page after they first located it, they probably just send the message as if the
form had been filled in, without actually loading it.

It doesn't need to be very complicated - I have completely blocked spam postings
just by scanning for and rejecting 'http://'.

If you can't do any server side programming at all, then you may need to find
somewhere else to host the guestbook - there are several ways of doing this.

Alternatively, you are presumably using a pre-written guestbook script which you
can't edit - but can you change its parameters? For instance can you tell it that
certain fields are required? That may let you do tricks such as creating a required
field with JavaScript. But it's a bit of a kludge.

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Old 08-24-2008, 04:47 PM
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On Aug 23, 1:17-pm, Krustov <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> <uk.net.web.authoring>
> <Alex>
> <Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:15:27 -0700 (PDT)>
> <eb424c31-5201-4e05-99c2-346782da8...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
>
> > My website doesn't contain any harmful content, it's just a personal
> > website that I designed for fun and to share some info with others
> > about flight simulators and to show some pictures of my flights.
> >http://users.telenet.be/aviator

>
> Hi , I'm afraid your website has been deemed unsuitable for a free
> guestbook .
>
> It has google ads on it and is therefore classed by myself as being a
> commercial website because you make money from it .
>
> --www.phpguestbook.co.uk/phpgb
> (the best php guestbook on planet earth)


Ouch, that felt like a stab in the back! "Oh he's an airline pilot,
that pays well. And hey, he's got google ads, I bet he's over-rich! In
that case, I'm not gonna give him anything for free". Thanks mate.

If it's any consolation to you, in the 2,5 years that my website has
been online I have earned 12 US$ that I didn't even get because with
adsense you need to reach a threshold of 50 US$ before you get paid.
And even that is thanks to my parents who at their work use the google
search box from my website. And for the flying job my working days are
12-16 hours long and I earn less than an average computer programmer
on a 9 to 5 job that sells expensive software that is full of bugs and
security holes for which you have to download updates every week and
in the meantime watch your hair fall out.

Never mind, this sounds more complicated than I thought. I'm
considering closing down my guestbook.

Thanks anyway for the help all.
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Old 08-24-2008, 04:47 PM
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On Aug 23, 1:17-pm, Krustov <m...@privacy.net> wrote:
> <uk.net.web.authoring>
> <Alex>
> <Fri, 22 Aug 2008 15:15:27 -0700 (PDT)>
> <eb424c31-5201-4e05-99c2-346782da8...@z72g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
>
> > My website doesn't contain any harmful content, it's just a personal
> > website that I designed for fun and to share some info with others
> > about flight simulators and to show some pictures of my flights.
> >http://users.telenet.be/aviator

>
> Hi , I'm afraid your website has been deemed unsuitable for a free
> guestbook .
>
> It has google ads on it and is therefore classed by myself as being a
> commercial website because you make money from it .
>
> --www.phpguestbook.co.uk/phpgb
> (the best php guestbook on planet earth)


Ouch, that felt like a stab in the back! "Oh he's an airline pilot,
that pays well. And hey, he's got google ads, I bet he's over-rich! In
that case, I'm not gonna give him anything for free". Thanks mate.

If it's any consolation to you, in the 2,5 years that my website has
been online I have earned 12 US$ that I didn't even get because with
adsense you need to reach a threshold of 50 US$ before you get paid.
And even that is thanks to my parents who at their work use the google
search box from my website. And for the flying job my working days are
12-16 hours long and I earn less than an average computer programmer
on a 9 to 5 job that sells expensive software that is full of bugs and
security holes for which you have to download updates every week and
in the meantime watch your hair fall out.

Never mind, this sounds more complicated than I thought. I'm
considering closing down my guestbook.

Thanks anyway for the help all.
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Old 08-24-2008, 04:47 PM
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<uk.net.web.authoring>
<Alex>
<Sat, 23 Aug 2008 15:35:56 -0700 (PDT)>
<bc542773-ef50-4dd1-9102-e813651ad3d5@c58g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>

> Ouch, that felt like a stab in the back! "Oh he's an airline pilot,
> that pays well. And hey, he's got google ads, I bet he's over-rich! In
> that case, I'm not gonna give him anything for free". Thanks mate.
>
> If it's any consolation to you, in the 2,5 years that my website has
> been online I have earned 12 US$ that I didn't even get because with
> adsense you need to reach a threshold of 50 US$ before you get paid.
> And even that is thanks to my parents who at their work use the google
> search box from my website. And for the flying job my working days are
> 12-16 hours long and I earn less than an average computer programmer
> on a 9 to 5 job that sells expensive software that is full of bugs and
> security holes for which you have to download updates every week and
> in the meantime watch your hair fall out.
>


I have no objection whatsoever to your job etc .

Its just that i hate and despise google ads as i regard them as a curse
on the internet - and you as somebody who has them on their own website
by their own choice even admits they dont even make any money from them
- then doesnt that in turn mean having google ads on your website is
rather pointless and futile .

= google must be laughing there head off at people like you as you
advertise their product - without even getting paid for doing so .


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