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Old 04-13-2008, 01:04 AM
Harlan Messinger
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STILL LEARNING wrote:
> I'm not sure if this can even be done, but what prompts the question
> is my desire to be able to create an "Uber Link" script/code of some
> sort, such that even if the html page contains nothing but a
> background image -or- a background color -- in other words, the page
> has neither content nor placed images -- any click, ANYWHERE, will
> launch the URL in your browser.
>
> I realize I can make traditional text links and graphics links; what
> I'm looking for is to be paroled from these . . . and making the
> entire page, whether empty or not, one big CLICK.


By being "paroled" from text and graphics links, your must be intent on
moving to the next step: guesswork and psychic phenomena. The percentage
of your users who will figure out that they're supposed to click on an
empty area of the page to proceed to the place you want them to go will
be vastly smaller than the percentage who will be completely perplexed,
figure your page is broken or that there *is* nothing else on your site,
and will leave.
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Old 04-13-2008, 01:04 AM
STILL LEARNING
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On Feb 7, 7:15 pm, dorayme <doraymeRidT...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> <http://members.optushome.com.au/droovies/test/bigAsBigCanBe.html>


dorayme (and anyone else reading this thread) this is precisely the
effect I was looking for. I have another question about the
"clear.gif" that we're using in this example:

I want to be able to specify which of my directories this little image
will be in, as opposed to being dependent on "the image is relative to
the location" option -- in other words, I want to be free to assign a
different directory at my discretion. Right now, the anchor reads
simply

<a href="somewhere.html"><img id="bigAsBigCanBe" src="clear.gif"
alt="nothing much at all"></a>

so if I wanted to specify a particular directory, could I do so
modifying just this one line? or would I have to add additional
line(s) referencing clear.gif's directory location? Example (and
please note I've modified the alt text language . . .

<a href="somewhere.html"><img id="bigAsBigCanBe" src="http://
www.MYHOMEPAGE/ONEofmyDIRECTORIES/ThisSpecificSub-Directory/clear.gif"
alt="Click Absolutely ANYWHERE On This Page To Visit My Homepage!"></
a>

Thanks again dorayme (I just figured out your nickname hee hee,
cute

SL'in

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Old 04-13-2008, 01:04 AM
STILL LEARNING
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On Feb 8, 6:15 am, "Kevin" <kbd...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Sample solution: (tested on firefox/linux, should work on other
> browsers)


Kevin, thank you for this solution, very nice. The only drawback I
can see here is if someone (inadvertently or deliberately, go figure)
turned OFF their Java, this wouldn't work. I think you can agree,
it's best to keep this solution as cross-browser + HTML _durable_ (and
simple) as we can make it.

Otherwise, a very nice solution.

SL'in

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Old 04-13-2008, 01:04 AM
John
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"STILL LEARNING" <byte.this@usa.net> wrote in message
news:1170947960.533878.199830@s48g2000cws.googlegr oups.com...

> Kevin, thank you for this solution, very nice. The only drawback I
> can see here is if someone (inadvertently or deliberately, go figure)
> turned OFF their Java, this wouldn't work. I think you can agree,
> it's best to keep this solution as cross-browser + HTML _durable_ (and
> simple) as we can make it.
>
> Otherwise, a very nice solution.


So if you don't want a JavaScript solution, why did you post to
c.a.javascript?

And BTW, Java is not the same as JavaScript, despite the shared letters.

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Old 04-13-2008, 01:04 AM
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STILL LEARNING wrote:
> On Feb 8, 6:36 am, pcx99 <x...@x.com> wrote:
>> document.onclick=function () {
>> document.location.href="http://someurl.com"; --

>
> pcx99, forgive my ignorance but . . . what is this? Javascript? It's
> quite elegant and I like it, but I'm not sure where it would go or if
> it might be fussy (eg cross-browser compatible).
>
> Very elegant, and this is easily the best solution -- both for
> simplicity and size -- but only if it is not fussy. Could you
> elaborate a bit? Does this go BEFORE the </HEAD> -or- AFTER the
> <BODY> tag? Thank you pcx99.
>
> SL'in
>


Yes this is javascript. It can go anywhere on your page. Here's the
full text you'll need to insert.

<script type="text/javascript">
document.onclick=function ()
{document.location.href="http://someurl.com";--
</script>

This will over-ride any other links you would have on the page. If the
user clicks anywhere, regardless of where or what he or she clicks it
will call this script (unless the user has javascript disabled, in which
case nothing would happen).

Sorry for not being clearer in the original post. I had not noticed it
was cross-linked.



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Old 04-13-2008, 01:04 AM
Jonathan N. Little
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Harlan Messinger wrote:
> STILL LEARNING wrote:
>> I'm not sure if this can even be done, but what prompts the question
>> is my desire to be able to create an "Uber Link" script/code of some
>> sort, such that even if the html page contains nothing but a
>> background image -or- a background color -- in other words, the page
>> has neither content nor placed images -- any click, ANYWHERE, will
>> launch the URL in your browser.
>>
>> I realize I can make traditional text links and graphics links; what
>> I'm looking for is to be paroled from these . . . and making the
>> entire page, whether empty or not, one big CLICK.

>
> By being "paroled" from text and graphics links, your must be intent on
> moving to the next step: guesswork and psychic phenomena. The percentage
> of your users who will figure out that they're supposed to click on an
> empty area of the page to proceed to the place you want them to go will
> be vastly smaller than the percentage who will be completely perplexed,
> figure your page is broken or that there *is* nothing else on your site,
> and will leave.


Agree! Most folks don;t like playing "...and behind door number 3..."
with links. Sounds like an awful idea.

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Old 04-13-2008, 01:04 AM
STILL LEARNING
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On Feb 8, 7:47 am, "John" <J...@Hosking.name> wrote:
>
> So if you don't want a JavaScript solution, why did you post to
> c.a.javascript?
>
> And BTW, Java is not the same as JavaScript, despite the shared letters.


Well, to be perfectly frank I find the level of creativity in this
forum quite robust. As the length of this thread indicates, there is
more than one way to approach this objective (although I confess I
didn't fully think through the cross-browser + "friendly" issues
before first diving in). In any event, I think I can be forgiven
acknowledging the native creativity of the Javascript forum. Anything
you might lose to conspiratorial impulses you more than make up for in
knowledge ha ha.

Folks, no one is trying to hack (anyone, anywhere) with this request.
This is about emailing my 96-year old grandmother a (stock) graphic
that says "I've got new pictures Nana, click ANYWHERE in this window
and it will send you to the latest installment." She's not exactly
steady with a mouse, so this is a (somewhat) forgiving method of
giving her a wwwwwiiiiidddddeeeee berth to click.

And to answer the question burning in everyone's mind ("Why don't you
just make the graphic a link in the first place???"), I'm having
trouble getting it to send properly through my email client (or she's
got trouble on her end? damned if I know) because the graphic keeps
showing up on her end as an ATTACHMENT that she would have to open
separately.

So (sorry, this is kind of long lol) I tested another way to send this
"CLICK ANYWHERE" graphic -- as a >>BACKGROUND image -- and it sent
through my (old, I confess) email program just fine . . . but there's
just one little problem: I don't have any method through my email
program to control the purpose of that background image -- namely, to
make the entire thing One Big Click. It just sits there, you see.

Then we attempt "dorayme's" solution (it works a charm btw Do, a very
nice thing to have learned, thank you!) and . . . oh hell, here we go
again! The "clear.gif" is sent as an >>ATTACHMENT. Again, I'm
sorry this is such a soap opera but . . . well, don't read it if it's
too lengthy. I don't blame you; I'm ready to toss the whole project
lol.

Finally, if some of you are about to strongly recommend that I get a
new email program, I hear you. Unfortunately I just love the one I'm
using (it's "Calypso" not that anyone has ever heard it lol). This
being the one and only reason I would have need to change to a
different email program, I just have to weigh if it is that important
to me. I even tried dropping the html into Netscape and sending it to
myself to see if it would work, but I run into the same problem:
These email programs obviously alter (any) HTML in the course of
formatting something for email.

It's interesting because I've never realized this before, but . . . I
gather there IS no way to "Send" (email) an HTML page -- I mean, the
page itself, not a link referring to the page (or at least, I don't
know of any way to do it).

SL'in

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Old 04-13-2008, 01:04 AM
Mumia W. (NOSPAM)
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On 02/08/2007 12:35 PM, STILL LEARNING wrote:
> [...] I even tried dropping the html into Netscape and sending it to
> myself to see if it would work, but I run into the same problem:
> These email programs obviously alter (any) HTML in the course of
> formatting something for email.
>
> It's interesting because I've never realized this before, but . . . I
> gather there IS no way to "Send" (email) an HTML page -- I mean, the
> page itself, not a link referring to the page (or at least, I don't
> know of any way to do it).
>
> SL'in
>


(Followups set to comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html)

Can you put the image on the web and create an IMG element that uses
that image? E.g.

<IMG src="http://my.homepages.example.com/~SLin/image.jpg" alt="Click
anywhere">

You would only send the HTML text in the e-mail, but the image would
reside on your website.


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Old 04-13-2008, 01:04 AM
Jonathan N. Little
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STILL LEARNING wrote:
<snip>
> Folks, no one is trying to hack (anyone, anywhere) with this request.
> This is about emailing my 96-year old grandmother a (stock) graphic
> that says "I've got new pictures Nana, click ANYWHERE in this window
> and it will send you to the latest installment." She's not exactly
> steady with a mouse, so this is a (somewhat) forgiving method of
> giving her a wwwwwiiiiidddddeeeee berth to click.
>
> And to answer the question burning in everyone's mind ("Why don't you
> just make the graphic a link in the first place???"), I'm having
> trouble getting it to send properly through my email client (or she's
> got trouble on her end? damned if I know) because the graphic keeps
> showing up on her end as an ATTACHMENT that she would have to open
> separately.


Whoa, right there! don't try to do this in an email. Put pics online,
even a free-server and send dear old Nana a link to the online source.
Aside of the security issues that may be blocking your effort here email
must encode your binary image data to transmit so images on any size
balloon in size...use a webserver and send via http.


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Old 04-13-2008, 01:04 AM
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In article <530setF1puunuU1@mid.individual.net>,
Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removethis@comcast.net> wrote:

> STILL LEARNING wrote:


> > I realize I can make traditional text links and graphics links; what
> > I'm looking for is to be paroled from these . . . and making the
> > entire page, whether empty or not, one big CLICK.

>
> The percentage
> of your users who will figure out that they're supposed to click on an
> empty area of the page to proceed to the place you want them to go will
> be vastly smaller than the percentage who will be completely perplexed,
> figure your page is broken or that there *is* nothing else on your site,
> and will leave.



Maybe that is what is wanted by OP and you cannot know what his
or her intent or purpose is. Maybe it is only the minority you
imagine that is wanted by the OP to "go through" to wherever.

[btw, wanna a little side bet, Harlan, on the percentage? I
figure if people see a hand icon with finger pointing, more will
click than you might wager on and I will clean up. You can give
me odds if you still don't believe it.]

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