On Feb 8, 12:55 pm, "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4...@centralva.net>
wrote:
>
> Whoa, right there! don't try to do this in an email. Put pics online,
> even a free-server and send dear old Nana a link to the online source.
> Aside of the security issues that may be blocking your effort here email
> must encode your binary image data to transmit so images on any size
> balloon in size...use a webserver and send via http.

Oh the pics are online alright, I just want to give her a super comfy
way to get to them. I've finally gotten her to the point where she
"gets" (understands) (uh, sort of heh) email. I'm just trying to
spare her having to land that naughty cursor with a shaky hand (a
problem compounded by her eyesight and arthritis). I take your point
about encoding the background graphic, but let's stay on the same page
here: It is the stock "Click Me Anywhere" graphic that would be
emailed (not my GIGANTIC pictures). The graphic that is emailed
doesn't need to be physically large, it just needs to H.O.G. the
entire screen (as dorayme has effectively demonstrated).

When she clicks it, THEN she gets over to the big stuff (resident in a
directory on my home page). Believe me, I would never email these
pictures. I do have some regard for bandwidth believe it or not
lol.

SL'in

"STILL LEARNING" <byte.this@usa.net> writes:

> Oh the pics are online alright, I just want to give her a super comfy
> way to get to them. I've finally gotten her to the point where she
> "gets" (understands) (uh, sort of heh) email. I'm just trying to
> spare her having to land that naughty cursor with a shaky hand

Completely off-topic, but I hope it's forgivable since I'm trying to help
someone's arthritic grandma! :-)

Have you had her try using a trackball instead of a mouse? The reason being,
I've noticed that for a lot of older folks, the "click" motion isn't entirely
separated from the mouse-moving motion, and a click results in the pointer
moving a bit.

With a trackball you can lift your thumb (or whatever digit you're using)
from the ball to freeze the pointer in place while you're clicking the
button.

sherm--

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STILL LEARNING wrote:
> On Feb 8, 12:55 pm, "Jonathan N. Little" <lws4...@centralva.net>
> wrote:
>> Whoa, right there! don't try to do this in an email. Put pics online,
>> even a free-server and send dear old Nana a link to the online source.
>> Aside of the security issues that may be blocking your effort here email
>> must encode your binary image data to transmit so images on any size
>> balloon in size...use a webserver and send via http.
>
> Oh the pics are online alright, I just want to give her a super comfy
> way to get to them. I've finally gotten her to the point where she
> "gets" (understands) (uh, sort of heh) email. I'm just trying to
> spare her having to land that naughty cursor with a shaky hand (a
> problem compounded by her eyesight and arthritis). I take your point
> about encoding the background graphic, but let's stay on the same page
> here: It is the stock "Click Me Anywhere" graphic that would be
> emailed (not my GIGANTIC pictures). The graphic that is emailed
> doesn't need to be physically large, it just needs to H.O.G. the
> entire screen (as dorayme has effectively demonstrated).
>

Why should your email need to click at all? It is not a webpage. Either
attached more than one image per email and she can scroll via the good
old down-arrow key (or scroll wheels are nice) Or send here successive
emails with a picture in each and the good old 'n' key moves to the nest
email!

Your main problem is trying to use email as a webpage. Bad idea.

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Take care,

Jonathan
-------------------
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

STILL LEARNING wrote:

> I'm just trying to
> spare her having to land that naughty cursor with a shaky hand (a
> problem compounded by her eyesight and arthritis).

Then you don't need the entire window clickable. You just need a big
target to click on. Since you are sending HTML anyway, why not style the
"click Here" to be big enough that she couldn't possibly miss?

Scott Bryce <sbryce@scottbryce.com> wrote in
news:Yd6dnVBvJvx8IVbYnZ2dnUVZ_vWtnZ2d@comcast.com:

> STILL LEARNING wrote:
>
>> I'm just trying to
>> spare her having to land that naughty cursor with a shaky hand (a
>> problem compounded by her eyesight and arthritis).
>
> Then you don't need the entire window clickable. You just need a big
> target to click on. Since you are sending HTML anyway, why not style
the
> "click Here" to be big enough that she couldn't possibly miss?

If "Calypso" won't let you scale the text height big enough, fill the
email with a hundred links to your site. Good enough, eh?

On Feb 8, 1:53 pm, Sherm Pendley <spamt...@dot-app.org> wrote:
> Completely off-topic, but I hope it's forgivable since I'm trying to help
> someone's arthritic grandma! :-)
>
> Have you had her try using a trackball instead of a mouse? The reason being,
> I've noticed that for a lot of older folks, the "click" motion isn't entirely
> separated from the mouse-moving motion, and a click results in the pointer
> moving a bit.
>
> With a trackball you can lift your thumb (or whatever digit you're using)
> from the ball to freeze the pointer in place while you're clicking the
> button.
>
> sherm--

Aww. Your mother must be proud of you honey! Yessir, I've only
got one Nana left, and she's an original.

She won't use a trackball. Don't even ask! She also will NOT use the
(she calls it the "Cripple" button -- meaning, the features that
ENLARGE type etc., thereby making life a lot easier for her long-
suffering granddaughter, amonst other people lol -- the icon with the
wheelchair thingy in the Control Panel) (she is herself of course in a
wheelchair ) (don't get me started lol).

Look folks, I just wanted to see if there was a way to "fill" the
available space of an email window with a solid graphic that I can
make that says, "Okay Nana, click ANYWHERE in this window -- don't
worry about fumbling with your cursor, just get it in the window
_somewhere_ and click that bad boy." I used to send her emails in
gigantic type size and got read the riot act for my trouble.

"I assure you I can READ young lady, you don't need to (snip) ~"

Sound familiar? Anyone else having loads of fun dealing with a feisty
90-Something? ha ha Yes, well. You'll be in your 90's too some day,
God willing!

But I am exploring something that looks intriguing:
Ace HTML Free has a feature that will let you (allegedly) -->>email
the BODY of an html document from within Ace. The key word here is
the BODY of the html is mailed, not merely sent as an attachment
(which I can already do right now).

It of course doesn't work (groan, what else is new) but I am
researching this. It may be looking for Outlook, which I don't use,
but we'll see. Honestly, if anyone knows of a program that can pull
raw HTML into an email client, display it, and then send it . . . I'd
appreciate knowing about it, since there is no apparent "Do It
Yourself" solution.

SL'in

On Feb 8, 7:00 pm, Jim Land <RrrrFfffTttt(NO)@(SPAM)hotmail.com>
wrote:
> If "Calypso" won't let you scale the text height big enough, fill the
> email with a hundred links to your site. Good enough, eh?

ha ha. practical, NOT elegant.

I want elegant.

To be continued . . .

SL'in

dorayme wrote:
> Maybe that is what is wanted by OP and you cannot know what his
> or her intent or purpose is. Maybe it is only the minority you
> imagine that is wanted by the OP to "go through" to wherever.

I see. The worthy initiates, as it were. Those who grasp the Zen of it all.

>
> [btw, wanna a little side bet, Harlan, on the percentage? I
> figure if people see a hand icon with finger pointing, more will
> click than you might wager on and I will clean up. You can give
> me odds if you still don't believe it.]
>
An intriguing wager, but I'll decline. :-)

In article <533go2F1r5qnjU1@mid.individual.net>,
Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removethis@comcast.net> wrote:

> dorayme wrote:
> > Maybe that is what is wanted by OP and you cannot know what his
> > or her intent or purpose is. Maybe it is only the minority you
> > imagine that is wanted by the OP to "go through" to wherever.
>
> I see. The worthy initiates, as it were. Those who grasp the Zen of it all.
>

Yes, you put it very well! The canonical dogma of this church is
that everything a website maker does should have the ultimate aim
of being as accessible as possible to the great unwashed masses,
that everything should be as clear as a bell, everything
transparent. If something is to be restricted, make it a login
directory, otherwise it's for every person and his dog. --------!
Blessed is the obscurantist website maker. I say, let out the
lurking Buddhist in the html/css heart.

> >
> > [btw, wanna a little side bet, Harlan, on the percentage? I
> > figure if people see a hand icon with finger pointing, more will
> > click than you might wager on and I will clean up. You can give
> > me odds if you still don't believe it.]
> >
> An intriguing wager, but I'll decline. :-)

--
dorayme

On Feb 9, 12:57 pm, dorayme <doraymeRidT...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> Yes, you put it very well! The canonical dogma of this church is
> that everything a website maker does should have the ultimate aim
> of being as accessible as possible to the great unwashed masses,
> that everything should be as clear as a bell, everything
> transparent. If something is to be restricted, make it a login
> directory, otherwise it's for every person and his dog. --------!
> Blessed is the obscurantist website maker. I say, let out the
> lurking Buddhist in the html/css heart.

I was with you Do . . . up until "--------!" Feel free to call me
corny, but I do think that for _some people_ (not me, not you,
probably not most of the folk reading this NG) anything COMPUTER has
to be dumbed down. And, really, I don't even like my choice of words
("dumbed" down) because it implies a value judgment. My gram was born
in a completely different era, but it's because I love her so much
that I will bend over backwards to make her computer screen act as
much like a television set as possible lol. Okay, you can laugh. Her
remote control is her mouse; her TV screen is her monitor.

IT WORKS ha ha.

But I didn't report back in for no reason guys, I actually found a
solution and I thought I'd pass it on.

I located a program called "HANDY MAILER" http://www.bulkemailsoft.com
and it is a lovely email program that not only works, for someone like
me who might send the staggering volume of nine HTML-EMAILS a year to
my grandmother, it generously allows me to use the program without
having to pay for it.

I put it through its paces and rifled off a dozen or so emails just to
assure myself that the HTML that I imported into Handy Mailer didn't
suffer a "sex change" upon being pulled into Calypso. They function
exactly as they would on an html page, and she has a big BEAUTIFUL
area to click on to get to me.

I'd better not hear a peep out of her dammit lol.

SL'in