On 2008-09-01, Daniel Jung <jung@uib.no> wrote:
> Johannes Koch wrote:
>> Daniel Jung schrieb:
>>> But thinking of it: what would the benefit of a _single_ enclosing dl
>>> be (as opposed to one for each pair)?
>>
>> A dl ist a definition _list_. What you created is a sequence of one-item
>> definition lists. It's similar to
>>
>> <ul>
>> <li></li>
>> </ul>
>> <ul>
>> <li></li>
>> </ul>
>
> Not quite, since there _is_ a "list" (a pair). The term and the
> definition are _listed_, which your examples are not. It depends on how
> you define "item". In the sense of "term", you are right.
>
> But anyway, I agree that the <dl>pair</dl><dl>pair</dl> is ugly, and
> breaks with an educated reader's intuition and expectations. The
> question is just how acceptable the ugliness is.
>
> And besides the ugliness: What is the _benefit_ of it (for parsers)?

What sort of parsers? Are you thinking of search engines or people
trying to script your site?

On Mon, 1 Sep 2008, Daniel Jung wrote:

> But thinking of it: what would the benefit of a _single_ enclosing dl be
> (as opposed to one for each pair)?

I don't know.
I only know that I could not find a solution for the sample page
http://freenet-homepage.de/prilop/vocabulary.html
with a single enclosing DL that would "work" in the same way
for both Firefox and Internet Explorer.

Johannes Koch wrote:
>
> <http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/struct/lists.html#edef-DL>:
> Definition lists vary only slightly from other types of lists in that
> list items consist of two parts: a term and a description.
>

Thanks

- daniel

On 31 Aug, 22:51, Daniel Jung <j...@uib.no> wrote:
> Hi
>
> I have a glossary for Latin words. URL:http://www.vroma.org/help/glossary..html
>
> The list marked up as paragraphs for each entry, and that looked very
> well. We changed it to definition list though, since that is what we
> believe is the best semantical markup. Now, want the dd to be right next
> to the dt, since the dd contains grammatical properties of the dt which
> normally are written right next to the lemma (word entry). Example:
>
> (SHOULD BE)
> acta -orum: n. pl. a written record of events
>
> (IS)
> acta
> - - -orum: n. pl. a written record of events
>
> Aside: We felt that the "-orum" should not be part of the dt since it is
> a grammatical property to the entry, not the entry itself.
>
> Having one dl only surrounding the pairs has proven difficult. Right
> now, each dt/dd pair is enclosed in a dl container. This is the only way
> we could achieve the rendering as we want it (see above, or refer to the
> URL). I have tried every way I could think of, using floats and clears
> and inlines and margins, but apparantly, I must have missed a combination..

Maybe this combination could do it:

dt { float: left; clear: left --
dd { display: block; margin-bottom: 1em --

Roy A. wrote:

> Maybe this combination could do it:
>
> dt { float: left; clear: left --
> dd { display: block; margin-bottom: 1em --

Thanks a lot!

- Daniel

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