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Old 09-23-2008, 01:42 AM
shapper
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Default Use of Headers. Need advice ...



Hello,

I am working on a web site with a two column layout, "Content" on the
left and "Sidebar" on the right.

Sidebar
1) Sidebar is divided into sections (div). Each section has header.

Content
Content can display the following data (each is a different page):

2) In HomePage.html a list of blog articles is displayed. Each blog
article has a title.

3) In ShowArticle.html a specific article is displayed (Title, Body,
Tags).

4) In Documents.html a list of documents is displayed but in this
case the page
has a title and a subtitle. For example:

Documents
here you can find all the documents you need.

5) In Contact.html a title with subtitle is displayed just as in
(4).
After the title and subtitle there is only paragraphs with the
contacts.

So basically that's it ... I am trying to figure the correct way to
use <h1>, <h2>, etc.

The text font, weight and color is always the same ... what changes is
the size.

For example, if in HomePage the Post Header could be <h1> because
there is no page title, in Documents there is a page title and a
subtitle (should be this a paragraph? it's more like a description
phrase then a section separator). So in Documents each Document could
have <h3> ...

And if there is a Page Title (h1) then should side bar have <h2>? I
suppose it is more correct to be h1.Sidebar.

And in ShowArticle I am displaying one article. Should I use the <h1>
in the title? Then it would be the same tag then in Sidebar
section ...

I have been looking in a few web sites and blogs and they differ ...

Anyway, I am just trying to make this right ...

Any help is welcome.

Thanks,
Miguel




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Old 09-23-2008, 01:42 AM
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Default Re: Use of Headers. Need advice ...

In article
<2943a455-ed41-457f-8d01-dc0234e4247d@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
shapper <mdmoura@gmail.com> wrote:

> So basically that's it ... I am trying to figure the correct way to
> use <h1>, <h2>, etc.


Read

<http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/HTML3.2/4.4.html>

and then do the very best you can after this.

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Old 09-23-2008, 01:42 AM
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On Sep 19, 11:54-am, dorayme <doraymeRidT...@optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> In article
> <2943a455-ed41-457f-8d01-dc0234e42...@l42g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>,
>
> -shapper <mdmo...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > So basically that's it ... I am trying to figure the correct way to
> > use <h1>, <h2>, etc.

>
> Read
>
> <http://www.cs.tut.fi/~jkorpela/HTML3.2/4.4.html>
>
> and then do the very best you can after this.
>
> --
> dorayme


I had read it and together with what I have at the moment I would do
something like:

In HomePage.html or Documents.html I will always use <h2> for each
post title when in a list.

In Documents or Contact I will always use a <h1> for page title and
<p> for the short "catch attention" phrase under it.

In ShowArticle I will use <h1.Article> for the article title.

In SideBar I will use <h2.Sidebar> for each section title ... ( I am
not completely sure if I should use h1 but maybe I should use h2
because, for example, in Contact.html I will have an h1 which will be
that page title ...

Anyway, could someone, please, tell me if I am planing this the right
way?

Thank You,
Miguel
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:42 AM
Johannes Koch
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shapper schrieb:
> Anyway, I am just trying to make this right ...


BTW, markup questions like this are more appropriate in
comp.infosystems.www.authoring.html or alt.html.

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In te domine speravi; non confundar in aeternum.
(Te Deum, 4th cent.)
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:42 AM
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On Sep 19, 12:14-pm, Johannes Koch <k...@w3development.de> wrote:
> shapper schrieb:
>
> > Anyway, I am just trying to make this right ...

>
> BTW, markup questions like this are more appropriate in
> comp.infosystems.www.authoring.htmlor alt.html.
>
> --
> Johannes Koch
> In te domine speravi; non confundar in aeternum.
> - - - - - - - - - - - - - - -(Te Deum, 4th cent.)


Ok, I will post them there two ... I posted here because it also has
some CSS because of styling so I wasn't sure if it could be here.

Thank You,
Miguel
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I just responded in alt.html. If you must post a message in more than
one newsgroup, crosspost (send one message to all of them), don't
multi-post (create a separate message for each newsgroup). Because you
did this, I just wasted time responding in alt.html without realizing
that you had responses here.
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Harlan Messinger wrote:
> I just responded in alt.html. If you must post a message in more than
> one newsgroup, crosspost (send one message to all of them), don't
> multi-post (create a separate message for each newsgroup). Because you
> did this, I just wasted time responding in alt.html without realizing
> that you had responses here.

OK, now I see that what happened is that you originally posted here
first, and then were referred to a better newsgroup. That's
different--though I think the best bet would have been to forward the
post in which that had been discussed to the other group so it would
have been apparent that the thread already existed elsewhere.
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In article <6jhj26F38d5cU4@mid.individual.net>,
Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removethis@comcast.net> wrote:

> best bet would have been to forward the
> post in which that had been discussed to the other group so it would
> have been apparent that the thread already existed elsewhere


I am looking at my newsreader here and thinking is there a facility to
"forward" a post... or do you mean something more informal, like if one
later decides to post similar question to another group, one should
simply mention to look at the original post?

I ask because the other day I had an afterthought and posted to a
javascript group and could not take back the past*.

----------
* Actually, I am working on a scheme to be able to do this. But it
requires a lot of money so if anyone is interested please send $US to
help. I understand that the US is flooded with money at the moment but
that it is doing no good. The US Government might better consider my
scheme. That way I can reverse the greedy decisions of the lending
companies that brought on the latest crises. At its source, in a
*timely* fashion. In the past.

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Old 09-23-2008, 01:42 AM
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dorayme wrote:
> In article <6jhj26F38d5cU4@mid.individual.net>,
> Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removethis@comcast.net> wrote:
>
>> best bet would have been to forward the
>> post in which that had been discussed to the other group so it would
>> have been apparent that the thread already existed elsewhere

>
> I am looking at my newsreader here and thinking is there a facility to
> "forward" a post... or do you mean something more informal, like if one
> later decides to post similar question to another group, one should
> simply mention to look at the original post?


Normally I hit Reply and then add another newsgroup and, if desired, a
separate Followup-to for the latter newsgroup in order to exclude the
original one from the rest of the thread if the topic was out of place
there. Then I add a note at the top reading, "forwarding and follow-ups
to alt.blah".
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Old 09-23-2008, 01:42 AM
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In article <6jj51mF3j5kfU1@mid.individual.net>,
Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removethis@comcast.net> wrote:

> dorayme wrote:
> > In article <6jhj26F38d5cU4@mid.individual.net>,
> > Harlan Messinger <hmessinger.removethis@comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >> best bet would have been to forward the
> >> post in which that had been discussed to the other group so it would
> >> have been apparent that the thread already existed elsewhere

> >
> > I am looking at my newsreader here and thinking is there a facility to
> > "forward" a post... or do you mean something more informal, like if one
> > later decides to post similar question to another group, one should
> > simply mention to look at the original post?

>
> Normally I hit Reply and then add another newsgroup and, if desired, a
> separate Followup-to for the latter newsgroup in order to exclude the
> original one from the rest of the thread if the topic was out of place
> there. Then I add a note at the top reading, "forwarding and follow-ups
> to alt.blah".


Sounds sensible.

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